Post-Republican Debate Thoughts

I saw last night as being good for Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani hit his mark early after Romney flubbed a question about Iraq. Romney wants to be supportive enough of President Bush’s Iraq policy to attract primary voters but also is trying to have enough distance from him to do well in a general election. Asked if he would still support the invasion of Iraq given everything we know now, Romney replied “”null set kind of question”. That would be a good answer if Romney were running for president of the BYU Math Club or the Chess Society of Lake Winnipesaukee, but it doesn’t work in a debate. Giuliani pounced by giving a clear, declarative answer, saying “”Absolutely the right thing to do. It’s unthinkable that you would leave Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq and be able to fight the war on terror.”

McCain’s best moment when a woman whose brother was killed in action in Iraq asked the candidates about the war. He rose and spoke with emotion of the value of his sacrifice. Notice how Giuliani and Romney followed his lead in getting up out of their seats during this portion of the debate.

I’m not going to get into the detail on the immigration debate. I can say that all this infighting certainly isn’t helping Republicans. The Democrats have a real advantage in terms of party unity going into November, 2008, but that’s a long way away.

I write about the debate in a column in The New York Sun.

One Response to “Post-Republican Debate Thoughts”

  1. Jay Diamond Says:

    Dear Seth,

    Romney’s “answer” to the very first debate question on Iraq was less noteworthy for the “null set” nonsense than for his assertion that Bush invaded because Saddam Hussein had not allowed the weapons inspectors into Iraq.

    Hussein, of course, allowed the inspectors in and gave them full access. It was Bush who forced the inspectors out by telling them the invasion was iminent.

    This was widely covered in the press, including the New York Sun, and it was thoroughly documented by Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector.

    Romney either lied or he was comically ignorant of major recent history material to what is arguably the worst military fiasco in American history.

    Either way he has amply demonstrated his incapacity to be president of the USA.

    As to Giuliani’s bravado in answer to the same question as to whether he would still support the invasion if he knew then what we know now, let us examine his exact words as quoted by you……..

    “”Absolutely the right thing to do. It’s unthinkable that you would leave Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq and be able to fight the war on terror.”

    Giuliani boldly asserts that it would be “unthinkable to leave Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq and be able to fight the war on terror.”

    Cheer, Cheer from the crowd.

    But if we take him seriously then we are left with a Giuliani who ignores WMD as a casus belli and substitutes the somewhat lower standard of Saddam Hussein’s existence.

    Giuliani is stating herein that he would not even have bothered to send in the inspectors that Romney either forgot about or lied about.

    Any sentient human with critical faculties would immediately grasp that the American public, even in 2002, would not have countenanced the invasion of Iraq just because Saddam Hussein was ensconced there.

    So in declaring the WMD irrelevant to his reason for the attack on Iraq and substituting the mere existence of Saddam Hussein, Giuliani was asserring a cause of war that the American public, and assuredly the American congress would not have found sufficiently persuasive.

    I think you will agree that Bush would not have resorted to the WMD “reason” if he felt he could get the approval of congress and the country merely by citing the existence of Saddam Hussein.

    Giuliani was full of baloney in his “answer”, and he therefore joins Romney in the not qualified due to being a liar category.

    We’ve had enough bonehead, grasping liars for a long, long, time.

    Jay Diamond

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